14 The-Dream: The Craft Will Outlive It All

Some people chase the sound. The Dream builds it. On this episode of the Heavy Hitter DJs Podcast, DJ Enuff, DJ Camilo and L. Boogs sit down with the songwriter and producer behind some of the biggest records of the last two decades, and he came ready to talk shop.

The Dream gets into why AI doesn't scare him ("AI doesn't know what I'm going to say next, it only knows what I've said"), the night eight-year-old Terius tore up his mom's Salt-N-Pepa vinyl and ended his DJ career on the spot, and how "Umbrella," Beyoncé, and Rihanna's "Ella, Ella" ad-lib actually came together. Music executive Yvette "Evie" Dávila pulls up with three decades of receipts, including a Def Jam McDonald's-on-the-couch origin story and a tribute that stops the room. Through all of it, one thing holds: the craft will outlive it all.

Boogs, the seat's still warm.Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Follow @theheavyhitters to join the conversation.